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brokenmonkey · Mar 05, 2007, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by Burn Butt

Indeed, the longer Gaile is gone, the more I begin to think we may have the truth or "some of" the truth being posted on The Inquirer. As we know from ANY political organization (Anet included), a lack of denial can also often be taken as an admission. Perhaps a "The Inquirer does not have it's facts straight" post is in order from Anet? This would let us at least know that they don't have 100% correct information up there and then just leave us to speculate on what is true and what isn't. Personally I would be suprised if GW2 hasn't been talked about or isn't in the works, but who knows.... But without at least SOME denail of this story, as time progresses it becomes more and more of the truth.

Exactly, gaile, For the sake of my life at least post this"

" ahah =)

Shmanka · Mar 05, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

Do you guys think that they will maintain their Guild Wars 1 servers, say you don't wanna buy Guild Wars 2 and just wanna PvP/PvE for almost forever with the remaining GW1 players?

I actually believed this was mentioned statistically before that the servers would not be fully sustainable over time if they had not made new standalone games. Honestly, if starcraft and diablo 1 are still being played.. Anet could find a way, in theory.

thezed · Mar 05, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by Burn Butt

Indeed, the longer Gaile is gone, the more I begin to think we may have the truth or "some of" the truth being posted on The Inquirer. As we know from ANY political organization (Anet included), a lack of denial can also often be taken as an admission. Perhaps a "The Inquirer does not have it's facts straight" post is in order from Anet? This would let us at least know that they don't have 100% correct information up there and then just leave us to speculate on what is true and what isn't. Personally I would be suprised if GW2 hasn't been talked about or isn't in the works, but who knows.... But without at least SOME denail of this story, as time progresses it becomes more and more of the truth.

Seems the suggestion I posted several hours ago is now gaining acceptance. The longer we hear nothing, the more it seems SOMETHING about this article is true.

Tarun · Mar 05, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

The Inquirer.. LMFAO. Nuff said. They post so much bogus information it's pathetic.

kitsune23 · Mar 05, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by lightblade

By the time GW2 release, the original GW's engine would be outdated anyways. So it doesn't matter.

My thoughts exactly. Yes, they can make the small changes to the engine (as they have done, this game did start off using DX8 to render), but to have an engine that truly takes advantage of all that DX10 is capable of will require a new engine. And by the time GW2 does come out, I may even be willing to reinstall Vista.

Perynne · Mar 05, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Geez, stop calling Gaile already. She can't be online 24 hours a day you know, she needs sleep too. I say just wait patiently, it's not like things are going to blow up if you don't get info straight away.

I don't believe this until I get news from a more official source. Supposing some of it is true, I'd be very happy to have a northern-themed game.

I also wouldn't mind GW2, since in a couple of years I'd be happy to have something new to try.

brokenmonkey · Mar 05, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Perynne

Geez, stop calling Gaile already. She can't be online 24 hours a day you know, she needs sleep too. I say just wait patiently, it's not like things are going to blow up if you don't get info straight away.

I don't believe this until I get news from a more official source. Supposing some of it is true, I'd be very happy to have a northern-themed game.

I also wouldn't mind GW2, since in a couple of years I'd be happy to have something new to try.

Gailes Job is too read these forums and communicate with the Community. And, its 11:21 were she lives, and if she is not at work by now, I want her job

Sectus · Mar 05, 2007, 07:22 PM // 19:22

I'm being doubtful regarding this news. Some of the news seems to contradict what Guild Wars is about...

Anet and Ncsoft has claimed that all the upcoming chapters would be standalone, why the sudden move to expansion packs?

18 new multi-level dungeons? The "dungeons" we've had has never been called dungeons by anet and they've always been in a very small number... this part of the news would fit any other MMORPG without problem but not GW.

And about GW2. Anet has stated that while GW2 would be considered in the far future, but they're completely dedicated for GW for now. So it seems a bit early for them to suddenly announce it now. And if a public beta is gonna be ready already next year that must mean they have worked on it quite a while... which makes it seems all the more unlikely.

Of course, it could be that anet has just kept it a secret all this time, or that ncsoft has forced them to make GW2 sooner than planned... or that Ncsoft got another company to make GW2.

The zone-wide pvp events and multiple races definitely makes it sound more like a generic mmorpg. What do they mean by zone-wide events anyway? GW is instanced, so a massive zone-wide event doesn't mean a whole lot if there can't be many players in one zone.

Of course, it could be that GW2 is going to be non-instanced, but if so why not mention that in the news? That would definitely be a lot bigger news than anything else which was mentioned about GW2.

The things which makes it sound true is the name for chapter 4 and the screenshot. But overall this just sounds fishy.

Burn Butt · Mar 05, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

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Originally Posted by thezed

Seems the suggestion I posted several hours ago is now gaining acceptance. The longer we hear nothing, the more it seems SOMETHING about this article is true.

That screenshot there is a big X factor... It certainly "looks" new, or at least created with the same engine as Guild Wars uses... BUT....

1) Where did they get it (since PC Gamer should have an exclusive)?
2) What a HORRIBLE screenshot to announce a game with.

The longer time goes by, you're right, the more truthful the article will feel... But there just appear to be so many holes in it too... What are some other reasons we could not be getting a response? Is Gaile or anyone else at this "convention" and not in front of a computer reading this forum per-chance? I can't see how news of this would not have made it back to ANet HQ by now though.....

One thing seems certain... Either The Inquirer has lied to us, is spreading rumor, or has is working with someone who is violating an NDA. Either way, I like my news delivered from official sources so that this type of dog and pony crap doesn't have to go on... I hope SOMEONE's head rolls for this.

dead man ivan · Mar 05, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Some of the things which get me are as follows and these are some of the minor points and nothing crazy. These make me more uneasy than any other things.

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The price of the add-on is not known at the time of annoucement, but it will be less than already present campaigns. In order to play the game, gamers must own at least one of the already released GW campaigns, like Nightfall, Factions or Prophecies

Always a good thing!! less price is nice and thank god I don't have to create another profession and all the headache of taking him through. It takes way to much time IMO so this idea is nice.

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The graphics engine will be brought up to date with latest graphics developments in 2009-10, so you can expect a game engine which will offer unrivalled graphics features in world of MMO

I love this feature, I am seeing screenshots of Age of Conan and they are breathtaking so DX10 GW engine running underneath would be just awesome! Someone mentioned the streaming tech inbuilt into GW and frankly I don't know if that would allow for a complete update of the game esp the underlying graphics engine but then I could be wrong about it.

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Playable races include Humans, Charr, Norns, Asurians and Sylvarians. Level cap is set, but it is not known at the time, while characters will now progress through the game in a more sensitive way

This could be both a good and bad thing and frankly I have never really cared about what race I play but seeing a battle from the view point of someone else would be awesome. It would be great to read about the folklore of the Charr esp and how they view the nuking of Ascalon and their subsequent problems with their gods!! Although GW folklore is not as deep as some of the other MMORPGs I still like it in it's simplicity and would like a great deal of things to come into it.

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NCSoft's roadmap now should be pretty clear, as far as GW world is concerned: GW1 add-on, GW2 public beta, GW2 final. Next 18 months will be very busy for these guys.

Remember GW2 if this article is true is very very far away and hopefully Anet will think of something about the character problem and with a level cap change they could introduce GW with a base of 20 and go upto level 40 say and this would be put new players on level with characters coming in from the past!!

I believe GW has a strong base albeit a critical one also and the pricing structure of this game is it's biggest selling point and that I believe is beyond dispute. GW2 is a good thing in my opinion because 1) DX10 in the capable hands of Anet artists will be something spectacular IMO

2) It allows them to get a whole set of new ideas in(could be bad as well but I have faith in this game!!)

IMHO if GW2 is a fact then I believe very honestly that Anet will introduce miniature updates like SoF cause they have always got some content out every 6-8 months and I believe they will continue to do so so rejoice PvErs its time to kill some freaking Mursaat again (please don't increase their armor level, I loved pounding them into the dust

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Ritual del Fuego · Mar 05, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by brokenmonkey

Gailes Job is too read these forums and communicate with the Community. And, its 11:21 were she lives, and if she is not at work by now, I want her job

Something tells me there is more to her job than looking at the forums. She could be in meetings or hell even be at the dentist. I'm sure she will reply when she has a chance.

brokenmonkey · Mar 05, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

HMMM SUSPICIOUS!!! Gaile has already logged in today on GW online when this was posted....(Its on Guru, and GWonline)

RichPowers · Mar 05, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Some perspective:

*Like someone said, GW is prepping for its Chinese release. I don't see Anet stopping major updates until GW2 is *supposedly* released in 2009 or 2010. Maybe scaling back the updates, but not stopping outright.

*Anet's profit model: release a steady stream of campaigns/skill packs/new crap that people buy to keep the servers humming and the company afloat.

Now let's go through the article piece by piece and point out its weaknesses and dubious claims:

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NCSOFT HAS ANNOUNCED the development and release dates for regular annual expansion of Guild Wars universe...

No one has announced crap. Anet has an exclusive deal with PCGamer regarding the next major update. Why would Anet or NCSoft go blabbing before the publication's release? A real journalist would say, "Sources tell us that..."

If a journalist interviewed a general off the record they wouldn't write, "THE PENTAGON SAYS..." That implies an official policy statement.

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and not too surprisingly, that this expansion will be the last throw of the dice before its successor appears on the market.

Not too surprisingly to whom? Cool insiders who have a website to throw around dubious crap?

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and stands to be released in Q3 of 2007

We have a press release saying that a major update is planned for GW during this time period. Either his "source" is correct, or he's using the press release to support his viewpoint - sources be damned.

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The price of the add-on is not known at the time of annoucement, but it will be less than already present campaigns. In order to play the game, gamers must own at least one of the already released GW campaigns, like Nightfall, Factions or Prophecies.

Totally possible, but it flies in the face of everything Anet has done thus far. Personally, I wouldn't confuse customers by offering a mix of expansions and stand-alone chapters...

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is 100% oriented towards games with characters of maximum level.

This is contingent on the above point. If C4 is stand-alone, and not an expansion, Anet would make content for all levels.

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his is a full sequel and will be released in 2009-10 timeframe, with a public beta being released sometime next year

"Soldiers may be coming home from Iraq in 2008-2010..."
"Hillary Clinton or John McCain may win in 2008..."

Listen, I don't expect this guy to be a Super Journalist, but what's the point of throwing around vague statements? Furthermore, if this release date is to be believed, that leaves 2 - 2.5 years without a single GW campaign. Seems like quite a gap.

Theo could be 100% correct on all points. But this article is sophomoric at best...

I remain unconvinved.

Retribution X · Mar 05, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Ritual del Fuego

Something tells me there is more to her job than looking at the forums. She could be in meetings or hell even be at the dentist. I'm sure she will reply when she has a chance.

Ok she might have a hangover.

Hell. She might be playing Guild Wars!

Wow. Imagine that! A dev playing the game!

Melkorium · Mar 05, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Could you count ToPK as a multi-level dungeon? Might be something to that...

kitsune23 · Mar 05, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

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Originally Posted by Sectus

And about GW2. Anet has stated that while GW2 would be considered in the far future, but they're completely dedicated for GW for now. So it seems a bit early for them to suddenly announce it now. And if a public beta is gonna be ready already next year that must mean they have worked on it quite a while... which makes it seems all the more unlikely.

Of course, it could be that anet has just kept it a secret all this time, or that ncsoft has forced them to make GW2 sooner than planned... or that Ncsoft got another company to make GW2.

Consider the changes that Windows Vista brings to the PC platform as part of the reason for this. Microsoft has been a bit more aggressive about dropping support for older OS's and 2009-10 is probably about when support for XP gets cut. DX10 is native for Vista only, which is why Halo 2 on the PC will require Vista to run. At some point or another Anet is going to want/need to retool their game. If it's any consolation, it'll happen to WoW at some point as well.

Shmanka · Mar 05, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by kitsune23

Consider the changes that Windows Vista brings to the PC platform as part of the reason for this. Microsoft has been a bit more aggressive about dropping support for older OS's and 2009-10 is probably about when support for XP gets cut. DX10 is native for Vista only, which is why Halo 2 on the PC will require Vista to run. At some point or another Anet is going to want/need to retool their game. If it's any consolation, it'll happen to WoW at some point as well.

Actually I have had more then just word saying that WoW is now done with expansions, and their new releases will be going public soon.

HalPlantagenet · Mar 05, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

I deeply appreciate the skepticism of previous posters which I've found helpful in developing my own opinion as to the veracity of the article. I fear we may not know more until the PCGamer article.

In any event, I hope the Arenanet/NCSoft are observing the situation carefully and asking themselves how to manage dissemination of information about new releases. So far, the Chapter 4 strategy doesn't seem to be doing the existing player base or Arenanet much good.

Omega X · Mar 05, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

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Originally Posted by brokenmonkey

HMMM SUSPICIOUS!!! Gaile has already logged in today on GW online when this was posted....(Its on Guru, and GWonline)

She is most likely waiting for the higher ups or she could be busy with something else.

thelegendozelda · Mar 05, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Just think swift every thing we' did/done down the drain if we cant cross over to GW2, Meh